tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post4925995952392724875..comments2024-03-21T03:35:20.539-04:00Comments on writing as jo(e): Circlejo(e)http://www.blogger.com/profile/01488562158252331555noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-87979752503734643482007-04-20T21:45:00.000-04:002007-04-20T21:45:00.000-04:00I got so much flack for rearranging classroom furn...I got so much flack for rearranging classroom furniture into circles and squares that I had to actually put in a written request with my dean who had to have it signed off on by the Vice President of Instruction (!!!!!) to have one of our classrooms "officially" arranged in a square and I have to teach all my classes in that room.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-42039047667843210482007-04-17T01:55:00.000-04:002007-04-17T01:55:00.000-04:00I know that on a day like today it doesn't really ...I know that on a day like today it doesn't really matter, but in your original post of what the other teacher left on the board, from what you said he never mentioned what the "proper position" really was.<BR/><BR/>True? <BR/><BR/>I would have left him a message that "we always do and are equally mystified at who keeps changing them. Every time we come to class they are all messed up again"<BR/><BR/>JodieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-79657071776864287472007-04-15T18:53:00.000-04:002007-04-15T18:53:00.000-04:00Glad to see that the state park knows about the pr...Glad to see that the state park knows about the proper position for benches!<BR/><BR/>And just for the record, when I teach medieval English (for about a month every fall) there are no rows in sight.susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12000470374101306070noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-3776437204265212652007-04-15T17:17:00.000-04:002007-04-15T17:17:00.000-04:00great story, jo(e)great story, jo(e)Yankee Thttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11533568911291967397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-22363288810381907392007-04-15T17:07:00.000-04:002007-04-15T17:07:00.000-04:00MonkeyPants - I love the idea of discussion-circle...MonkeyPants - I love the idea of discussion-circles in the air!Pilgrim/Heretichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08588407758172717893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-34825929583051469522007-04-15T13:51:00.000-04:002007-04-15T13:51:00.000-04:00LMC: It's funny -- I am just the opposite. Perfec...LMC: It's funny -- I am just the opposite. Perfectly straight rows drive me nuts. When I go to a conference and walk into a room full of chairs set in completely straight lines, I always have the urge to start messing them up so that the room looks friendlier.jo(e)https://www.blogger.com/profile/01488562158252331555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-10612152044600782492007-04-15T13:47:00.000-04:002007-04-15T13:47:00.000-04:00Your classes sound wonderful, jo(e).As a student, ...Your classes sound wonderful, jo(e).<BR/><BR/>As a student, I do prefer the circle arrangement for most of my classes, although I think rows do have their place. I think the linear structure of rows lends itself particularly well to math, for example. I like a nice right brain/left brain correlation between the subject matter of the class and the formation of the seating. Lol.<BR/><BR/>Also? Rows drive me nuts, because for some reason they tend to bring out my anal-retentive side. I become obsessed with whether or not they're perfectly aligned in a straight line and then I'll be distracted by that all class. Messy circles don't bother me, but for some reason crooked rows send me off the deep end.<BR/><BR/>Wow, that was a lot about my personal tics.Marciahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13608481532197537560noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-61474572518061825632007-04-15T13:05:00.000-04:002007-04-15T13:05:00.000-04:00I always love to read about your students. They se...I always love to read about your students. They seem like such wonderful people.ccwhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05319415763862282537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-57784180975524825882007-04-15T12:27:00.000-04:002007-04-15T12:27:00.000-04:00Pilgrim: LOL. I thought of you when I was typing...Pilgrim: LOL. I thought of you when I was typing that. Eh, these are science students -- what do they know? Sadly, none of them will ever have a chance to take medieval studies.<BR/><BR/>Inside the Philosophy Factory: I don't think the students were arguing that a circle is a better arrangement than rows. I think class room arrangement depends on any number of factors such as subject matter, class size, teaching style, etc. Class size is not the issue in this particular classroom because it only holds 20 desks.<BR/><BR/>It was the professor leaving the note who was asserting that rows was the "proper" way to arrange the desks. My students were reacting to his assumptions that everyone using the classroom should cater to his needs.<BR/><BR/>I do think a circle is an intimidating class room arrangement -- there's no where to hide. But I teach an upper level literature course in which the students are expected to speak up so the arrangement works for me.jo(e)https://www.blogger.com/profile/01488562158252331555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-36830349030337012942007-04-15T12:01:00.000-04:002007-04-15T12:01:00.000-04:00I just recalled the educational thinker, his name ...I just recalled the educational thinker, his name is Stephen Brookfield...Inside the Philosophy Factoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12255753259090709877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-54654998742158092572007-04-15T11:59:00.000-04:002007-04-15T11:59:00.000-04:00While I appreciate the critical thinking the note ...While I appreciate the critical thinking the note inspired.. I end up being a rows person because my students fill up every one of the desks in my room, thus leaving no room for a circle. <BR/><BR/>Next time you are in your circle, look at the extra desks and realize that they probably wouldn't be a comfortable place for your students to sit -- <BR/><BR/>Perhaps that is why the rows are the default, because the bigger classes shoved into a small classroom need them that way? Perhaps instead of getting snarky back, you should realize that you are lucky to have a class small enough to sit in a circle. <BR/><BR/>Also, there are some educational thinkers who call the circle arragement an intimidating arrangement, because you have to face all of the other people in the classroom. If you are an introvert, that can be very intimidating and cause you not to speak-up. In my classroom the interested introverts sit in front so they can speak up without having to look at the rest of the large class.Inside the Philosophy Factoryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12255753259090709877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-32289420838598215002007-04-15T10:35:00.000-04:002007-04-15T10:35:00.000-04:00I love that story :)I love that story :)krisluvswoolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11301389134917751361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-86191108444124931282007-04-15T03:44:00.000-04:002007-04-15T03:44:00.000-04:00Oops, I mean "around here." I'm tired.Oops, I mean "around here." I'm tired.Breena Ronanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02566521893585459242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-50824266341316859452007-04-15T03:43:00.000-04:002007-04-15T03:43:00.000-04:00Your desks can be moved? I either teach in rooms w...Your desks can be moved? I either teach in rooms with fixed desks or in rooms too small to fit the twenty+ students in my section, so we can't really make a circle. (I'm glad that I'm not the only one who thinks about this stuff. People look at me weird around hear when I complain about the rooms.)Breena Ronanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02566521893585459242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-62687091332741935892007-04-15T03:40:00.000-04:002007-04-15T03:40:00.000-04:00That's great! Something tells me I would've reall...That's great! <BR/><BR/>Something tells me I would've really enjoyed your classes. <BR/><BR/>And I agree; who decides what's 'proper', anyway? Seems like if two classes use the circle pattern and one uses the 'proper' pattern, that other professor is outnumbered. <BR/><BR/>Or maybe that's just me...always rooting for the underdog. :)Toddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15483489347522326532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-24165818425575037772007-04-15T01:46:00.000-04:002007-04-15T01:46:00.000-04:00Jo(e), I love reading about the rapport you share ...Jo(e), I love reading about the rapport you share with your students.<BR/><BR/>Pilgrim/Heretic, my Medieval Studies classes' desks were in rows, but the discussions were in giant, looping chains of questions and answers. Circles in the air.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-41368222687689046992007-04-15T01:37:00.000-04:002007-04-15T01:37:00.000-04:00I've always hated when I got those notes. I usual...I've always hated when I got those notes. I usually just responded as your students did: Why are rows the default? One professor responded that rows were the most efficient use of the space, and that when the desks were in a circle, he couldn't accommodate all of his students comfortably. I told him that he should take that up with the Dean and insist on smaller class sizes.<BR/><BR/>Actually, that didn't happen, but I often imagined it. I got a little paranoid thinking about how the other teachers viewed the way I taught. We were a small, small college, and everyone talked.cieux autreshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14972576793581248965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-79749754696541373412007-04-14T23:47:00.000-04:002007-04-14T23:47:00.000-04:00I love their analysis of the blackboard message an...I love their analysis of the blackboard message and their reassment of "proper"! What a fun post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-4597972968259778532007-04-14T22:25:00.000-04:002007-04-14T22:25:00.000-04:00judging from their reactions and their suggestions...judging from their reactions and their suggestions for solutions, your students seem very wise. more fieldtrips!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-79904277779731260312007-04-14T21:54:00.000-04:002007-04-14T21:54:00.000-04:00We had an "announcement" in a recent faculty meeti...We had an "announcement" in a recent faculty meeting because some of the faculty who taught in the morning were concerned that somebody who taught in the evening (that would be me) was not using the desks properly. I rolled my eyes--in a circle.Monhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07298264911822044959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-10162333926789697402007-04-14T21:01:00.000-04:002007-04-14T21:01:00.000-04:00Well, now I have to get all indignant that your st...Well, now I have to get all indignant that your students think medieval studies is the kind of class where people would sit in rows and listen passivley to lectures. ;)Pilgrim/Heretichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08588407758172717893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-61323117475845379702007-04-14T20:36:00.000-04:002007-04-14T20:36:00.000-04:00You've corrupted them. They'll never be the same ...You've corrupted them. They'll never be the same again. ;-)Lindahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03167212722339582049noreply@blogger.com