tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post6869593074393430610..comments2024-03-21T03:35:20.539-04:00Comments on writing as jo(e): Hate mail, Club Libby Lu, and mejo(e)http://www.blogger.com/profile/01488562158252331555noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-39554447479655175352009-05-30T22:00:57.444-04:002009-05-30T22:00:57.444-04:00It IS ridiculous. My neice went and I guess the gi...It IS ridiculous. My neice went and I guess the girls were having some kind of party. I was watching them strut down the "runway", and my neice was saying "I want to go!" I immediately walked away and NEVER looked OR brought my neice to that store. Thank goodness it's gone!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-65965614324916939592009-01-20T10:17:00.000-05:002009-01-20T10:17:00.000-05:00okay, I work at Club libby lu and we give the girl...okay, I work at Club libby lu and we give the girls a choice of what they want to wear and we even ask for moms approval. The girls love having an open floor to dance to and love getting there hair done by someone they can look up to and have a good time with. Libby lu gives the girls an opportunity to be a rockstar or a princess with there friends. Dont blame libby go blame hannah montannah or in other words miley cyrus.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-16641289278751545362008-12-10T10:47:00.000-05:002008-12-10T10:47:00.000-05:00I hadn't heard about this fantastic news! My daugh...I hadn't heard about this fantastic news! My daughter is one week shy of four and a half, so it's a relief to know there will be no CLL bday party invites in her future...OneTiredEmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12786020912408441766noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-81551412154443150572008-12-05T21:21:00.000-05:002008-12-05T21:21:00.000-05:00Fascinating discussion, as usual. And this makes m...Fascinating discussion, as usual. And this makes me very very glad that I have only boys.<BR/><BR/>I hope that Megha (above) is right about the Bratz dolls perhaps being on their way out. Those are the creepiest, way worse than Barbie. Yikes!Lilianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03809018728037248794noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-86502635779201009602008-12-04T16:59:00.000-05:002008-12-04T16:59:00.000-05:00Blackend Boy,Looks like Bratz dolls might be on th...Blackend Boy,<BR/><BR/>Looks like Bratz dolls might be on their way out.<BR/>http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081204/bs_nm/us_mattel_bratz<BR/><BR/>MeghaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-89787006367337802882008-12-03T13:09:00.000-05:002008-12-03T13:09:00.000-05:00dress-up and let's pretend are fun -- it's the bla...dress-up and let's pretend are fun -- it's the blatant sexualization, commercialization, and the narrow roles provided that are horrifying.<BR/><BR/>i was worried when my daughter went through a lengthy "princess" phase -- but she didn't view princesshood as confining. she liked dinos and hiking and building things and animals and music and reading; thought she could be an astronaut and veternarian and pediatrician and music star and teacher and a few other things all at once. wearing pink, purple, and sparkles, on accounta she liked them. <BR/><BR/>the stuff hit the fan in high school, when her best girlfriends got all boy-crazy and consumed with makeup and fashion and cliques -- they were sucked into the sexy marketing abyss. and she wasn't. it felt lonely for her.<BR/><BR/>college is different. the social expectations are not so rigid as they seemed in high school. but i can't help thinking that the pressures on girls are great, and club libby lu was, as someone said, only a symptom.kathy a.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14479337952651746193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-12713142894152443312008-12-02T20:54:00.000-05:002008-12-02T20:54:00.000-05:00I just heard about CLL closing a day or so ago. My...I just heard about CLL closing a day or so ago. My first reaction was: "CRAP, I wish I was still blogging, 'cause I'd link to my earlier rant on the place and then yell in all caps, I WIN!"<BR/><BR/>My very second thought was, "Well, I hope Jo(e) blogs about it, at least." Yay.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-61659758005700460992008-12-02T18:19:00.000-05:002008-12-02T18:19:00.000-05:00Just an after thought I wonder waht the father who...Just an after thought I wonder waht the father who kept his mouth shut becasue his daughter had fun would have thought if it was his TEENAGE Daughter dressed sexy and dancing in the mall window?<BR/>Would he have kept quite then if she was having FUN?<BR/>I THINK NOT!Silver Creek Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15062404159303618655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-7890496780725917272008-12-02T18:16:00.000-05:002008-12-02T18:16:00.000-05:00COUGH! Sputter! WTF?I have never heard of this pla...COUGH! Sputter! WTF?<BR/>I have never heard of this place and THANK GOD it is closing.<BR/>I just don't get it...I really don't. WHY?<BR/>Why does SEX sell even at that tender age?<BR/>UNBELIEVEABLE!Silver Creek Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15062404159303618655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-28037994938413635702008-12-02T17:14:00.000-05:002008-12-02T17:14:00.000-05:00I remember that post, too; at the time, MG was eve...I remember that post, too; at the time, MG was even more princessy than she is now, and for a while I lived in fear that she'd be invited to one of those parties. I knew she'd love it, I knew RW and I would hate it, and I figured I wouldn't have the heart to tell her she couldn't go to a friend's birthday party.<BR/><BR/>Fortunately, she never did get invited to Libby Lu's. And now she is older, and they're gone, and I am much relieved.<BR/><BR/>Also,I admire your grace and humor in the face of trollish hate mail!elswherehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09682431666658202440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-39627638822972590232008-12-02T16:16:00.000-05:002008-12-02T16:16:00.000-05:00I love the fact that you were more concerned with ...I love the fact that you were more concerned with the quality of writing than the ugly comments. I'm glad they've closed down - it sounds hideous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-28537082636547323722008-12-02T14:21:00.000-05:002008-12-02T14:21:00.000-05:00Sunday afternoon, and all the kids have been hangi...Sunday afternoon, and all the kids have been hanging out at your place for the weekend- yours and the neighbors. You must be doing something right- and it isn't a princess party.<BR/>My daughter falls prey to this completely- it shows in her poses when I snap her picture. I encourage fairies and mermaids and mythical imaginative creatures, but princesses are common, too. <BR/>A colleague just told me that when his oldest was 16 he had to walk around with a mean "keep off, she's jailbait" look, and now he has to do it with his 13 year old.Lomagirlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09273397354830985024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-38788575245337657272008-12-02T14:12:00.000-05:002008-12-02T14:12:00.000-05:00P.S. I completely agree with the person above. You...P.S. <BR/><BR/>I completely agree with the person above. You're wonderful.BrightBoyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13002463263474418737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-31517247032902124612008-12-02T12:21:00.000-05:002008-12-02T12:21:00.000-05:00This mail is obviously not coming from regular rea...This mail is <I>obviously</I> not coming from regular readers, since anyone who has ever read a single other post would know that you are as far from being a frigid bitch than one can imagine, and the your husband (and children, and whole family, and friends, and readers) are in fact quite lucky for you.<BR/><BR/>And besides, I'd rather know a thousand frigid bitches than a single surrendered wife.Horacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15662740021328265642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-2775139569977675252008-12-02T09:12:00.000-05:002008-12-02T09:12:00.000-05:00children are made to grow up far too fast now, I s...children are made to grow up far too fast now, I sometimes wonder if this is why we have so many young girls with children of their own. As for dressing little children as grown-ups, well that just makes me feel sickAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-38247533873632498872008-12-02T03:00:00.000-05:002008-12-02T03:00:00.000-05:00It's one reason I'm so glad my 4yo is obsessed wit...It's one reason I'm so glad my 4yo is obsessed with dinosaurs. A girl who roars like a triceratops every 5 seconds is impervious to a place like Libby Lu. Long may it last.<BR/><BR/>On writing: My 6yo is having trouble learning to read/write, and it's been amazing to me how, when I mention it to friends and family, they say, "Oh, I'm still bad at writing!" And it's true. They are still bad at it.Jennifer (ponderosa)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17712875613623664156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-33542907728325946772008-12-01T21:20:00.000-05:002008-12-01T21:20:00.000-05:00Condolences on the trolls. Ugh.Lorianne summed it ...Condolences on the trolls. Ugh.<BR/><BR/>Lorianne summed it up nicely, I thought. The best litmus test, turn it around, see if it's ok for the other gender. Good for all kinds of reality checks.Zhoenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03515663141425057088noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-28442542440923285652008-12-01T21:05:00.000-05:002008-12-01T21:05:00.000-05:00Rev Dr Mom: See, the hate mail doesn't come from ...Rev Dr Mom: See, the hate mail doesn't come from regular readers, but because my post shows up in google searches. That's why it has continued.<BR/><BR/>I should also say that every once in a while I get an email from someone who was planning a Club Libby Lu party and changed their mind after reading my post and the ones I linked to.jo(e)https://www.blogger.com/profile/01488562158252331555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-41826370332902974532008-12-01T21:03:00.000-05:002008-12-01T21:03:00.000-05:00Jennifer (ponderosa): It's not that attending ONE...Jennifer (ponderosa): It's not that attending ONE PARTY is going to hugely harm a five-year-old. But Club Libby Lu is just a symptom. From infancy, girls in this culture are constantly bombarded with messages that tell them that they will be valued ONLY as pretty princesses or sex objects. When you add up all the negative messages they will get about their bodies, about their sexuality, and about themselves, it's pretty appalling. <BR/><BR/>When I talked with students about Club Libby Lu, we began with that as simply one example the many ways in which the dominant culture enforces rigid gender roles, promotes consumerism, and forces sexuality on children before they are ready.jo(e)https://www.blogger.com/profile/01488562158252331555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-23377026274913882332008-12-01T21:00:00.000-05:002008-12-01T21:00:00.000-05:00I remember the post--but do you mean that you're S...I remember the post--but do you mean that you're STILL getting hate mail? Wow.<BR/><BR/>As for the writing quality--I've noticed that other places. Reading political blogs during the campaign it was really evident--the nastier the sentiment being expressed, the less logical the argument and the worse the grammar.Rev Dr Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11607665272056430039noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-69672282751598649682008-12-01T20:53:00.000-05:002008-12-01T20:53:00.000-05:00Never heard of it, but equally appalled. My oldest...Never heard of it, but equally appalled. My oldest daughter is 7, and I'm simply exhausted by the measures I've had to take to keep her from rampant sexuality. For Halloween, classmates of hers were belly dancers and gypsies and geishas. It was so, so sad.Anjalihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17469613639032593194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-58858131921299958452008-12-01T20:40:00.000-05:002008-12-01T20:40:00.000-05:00Jennifer (ponderosa) - I totally agree that you're...Jennifer (ponderosa) - I totally agree that you're right. I've got a friend who is a middle school teacher and we often talk about what the 'tweens wear and what it says to them v. what it says to those older than they are.<BR/><BR/>The problem, I think, is that those symbols get glamorized in kids' minds. Not everybody, but a percentage. They become value; they become worth. And in 10 years, when slut gets attached, there's already a charge it's attracted to, a charge based on worth, glamour, power.<BR/><BR/>A male child given fireman as COOL doesn't really know about what that looks like, either; or a cop or a teacher or an anything.Arwenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08558928485894882320noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-1746943467091562962008-12-01T19:49:00.000-05:002008-12-01T19:49:00.000-05:00hate mail! oy. i'm glad they are shutting those ...hate mail! oy. i'm glad they are shutting those places down, for more reasons than that.kathy a.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14479337952651746193noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-1972661940008920082008-12-01T18:54:00.000-05:002008-12-01T18:54:00.000-05:00Kindergarteners don't know they're dressing like s...Kindergarteners don't know they're dressing like sluts unless you tell them. <BR/><BR/>I don't know where I'm going with that. <BR/><BR/>Maybe that's what the dad meant -- my daughter dressed like a slut for a day but she didn't know that's what she was doing, and she'll never dress that way in public again, so it's OK.<BR/><BR/>I'm not saying it IS ok. But that's what the dad may have meant. "No harm done."Jennifer (ponderosa)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17712875613623664156noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9799907.post-7743281494193881752008-12-01T18:33:00.000-05:002008-12-01T18:33:00.000-05:00That you were bothered less by the vitriol of the ...That you were bothered less by the vitriol of the hatemail than by the quality of the writing is absolutely adorable.<BR/><BR/>And I definitely don't feel sorry for your husband. Lucky duck.Michael Campbellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01591190102328210445noreply@blogger.com